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20 May Reading the ACIM Urtext There is considerable debate in the ACIM community about which version of the text and workbook students. 13 Jan The Urtext Manuscripts predate all other editions of the . a “definitive edition” of A Course in Miracles with a dedication to accuracy being a. Later in that same year, an even earlier version, called the Urtext, also became available on the Internet. Both versions showed that the Course as we knew it.

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Everything I have seen, heard from them, and carefully researched about them, as well as Helen and Bill, has urtwxt only told me they are not liars, but on the contrary; they are among the most honest people I know of. She was very clear about not changing any of the important words. If you see this and are amenable to an email exchange, would you drop me a line via the contact page?

And Helen was always very ashamed of them. BTW, if you’d like to see more about my thoughts on all of this, you can read my article urrext the last Conference in New York City as well as the other editions of the Course at my website here: Ponticello spoke last, no one had a chance to answer him. It feels right and natural to do that. Reasonable people can certainly ask why the ACIM urtext was edited. But if you are close to that material, then you are less likely to challenge the need to edit it — which is a separate question from the quality of the actual editing.

But that was not the case at the beginning. Then something happened I never would have thought possible: We are all going to the same place, but remember, the Course says, “The miracle minimizes the need for time. If you want to support that then be my guest. They are helping me and other members of our ACIM group in so many ways. However, it was clear that this case was uftext small potatoes to them. That is the version Helen and I edited into the finished copy — the published urtwxt.

An example that I have always used that I think still best expresses what happened is this: Why did Wapnick step in and edit it? Are we to believe that Jesus was somehow strangely absent during the three times that Helen channeled and urfext the Course over urtetx period of years in between?


At any rate, the claim was that the Course published by the Foundation for Inner Peace was not the true Course. Bill Thetford had typed the Course out once when Caim first read the words to him from her shorthand notebook.

Then there was material on mental urext and mental retardation, which was Helen’s field. They were just restated. I have a policy here of not deleting posts long story having to do with being honest and so forthbut if I did not have that policy, and was inclined to delete posts, this one would be amongst thefirst to go.

First of all, I’ve been fortunate enough to get to know two of the original members of FIP, Ken who made his transition a year and a half ago and Judy. First, much of it was personal to Helen and Bill, and had nothing to do with the teachings of A Course in Urtexh. But I’m still a little urtsxt by the distinction made with homosexuality. The Endeavor group has also included Matthew’s gospel in the Course, because they have always held thatt the Course and the Bible are the same.

For me it has just stopped being helpful in uftext way and seems to distract way too many of us. Moreover, Bill was very much involved with Edgar Cayce, having udtext to read him when Helen started to have all of her experiences in the spring of First, for private reasons, we couldn’t agree on a contract. Yet my understanding of the Course has been undeniably enhanced by reviewing the earlier versions.

Gary Renard’s Opinion of the Urtext

Tony chose distraction, delay, and controversy urtsxt New York City by calling the Course that most of us know a lie. Briefly — since most of you know the story — Helen had written down the dictation from Jesus in notebooks. In fact there were not fifty right in a row, the way they appear now. And I also think that her discomfort was connected with her experience of her relationship with Jesus — the closeness of it — a relationship that was impossible for her to ignore at this point, since she was basically hearing his voice all the time now.

In fact, when anyone in the early days would want to see the Course — and she would show the Course to very, very, very few people and she wouldn’t show them the whole Course — she would just show the really beautiful, rhapsodic, ecstatic passages. What Helen originally heard and wrote down in her notebooks, and what was largely recorded in the urtext, contained a lot of personal material.


Sure, we may be able to look at the over all message and say this, but the claim that only some of the more personal information is removed and some chapter titles and urtwxt put in as the changes that were made is completely inaccurate. Helen then retyped the manuscript of the text twice.

ACIM Urtext

When we finally did the editing, when I saw it, I think there were fifty-three principles. It is still a work in progress.

I have an Awakeninginchrist Yahoo global mailing list group on which I have answered questions for many urtxet, and you may find this resource with search box and archived messages helpful: Read, listen and love. When Helen dictated this to Bill, she basically dictated everything she had taken down with some very, very personal exceptions — material that was personal.

A great deal of this early material was colored by Helen. We simply would not have the Course without them, and I think love, not disdain, is the prevalent way in which most students of the Course think and feel about them.

In one of her visions that antedated the Courseshe saw herself come upon a piece of machinery in a rowboat that was beached on shore. For example, every student has to take a foreign language, math, or science, or history — whatever.

The question is, do Cindy and I want to work so hard to bring our friends to an atmosphere of non appreciation for the Course’s scribes and publishers, and also to a Conference that has as one its missions the strange idea of turning the Course into what it is not, namely a religion instead of a self-study Course? Jesus did not choose His scribes and the publisher, and edit the Course, without knowing what He was doing.

Wapnick claims that it needed further editing with chapter titles and such.

Armed with that information, some people subsequently and unlawfully removed the manuscript from the A. Your sense of tone — one being warmer than another — is absolutely right.